Apr 28, 2023·edited Apr 28, 2023Liked by Misha from Gamzuletova

Hey Misha,

I hope you don't mind me posting this comment here. Sorry this post is so long. If you do not want to post it or if you feel it is inappropriate, feel free to delete it. I wasted an hour or so composing this comment before I realized that this writer only allows comments from his PAID subscribers! Well, LAH-DI-FREAKIN'-DAH! I'd prefer to put this comment to good use, especially since I wasted so much time writing it!

This is in response to Jon Rappoport's recent substack post where he states an opinion on this same topic of the "no virus position" that is opposite of yours that you state in your post above. Rappoport's post is at the following link:


My comment I wrote in reply to Rappoport's post is as follows:

Rappoport is wrong, DEAD wrong about the history of what happened in our dear old, now deceased "AIDS" dissident movement! It was Rappoport's hero Peter DUESBERG who derailed the "AIDS" dissident movement. I was there when it all happened. No one made Duesberg do it. No one was holding a gun to his head, and no one forced him to do it. Duesberg did it willingly, initially by--of all things-- trying to claim the Continuum Award for proof of "isolation" of so-called "HIV"!! That "Continuum Award" campaign was NEVER directed at Duesberg in the first place!! ALL LITERATE veterans of the "AIDS dissident movement are keenly aware of this history!! That Award campaign for proof of "isolation" of "HIV" was directed at ORTHODOX jerks like Gallo and Montagnier and Fauci!

Yet PETER FREAKIN' DUESBERG felt it was prudent for HIM to step up and try to claim the award!! **THAT** was what caused the DIVISION and friction in our old "AIDS" dissident movement to GROW!! Duesberg should have done the right thing and STEPPED AWAY from the movement if he was feeling "threatened" by the serious criticisms that were being presented by Continuum Magazine and in particular the Perth Group with respect to the problems surrounding the purported "isolation" of "HIV". Duesberg should have known that this is HOW science is SUPPOSED to work! Those whose ideas LOSE do not get a right to KEEP replying! Instead, Duesberg clearly let his overblown EGO mandate that he INSERT himself into the "isolation" issue when it was NEVER necessary for HIM to do so!!

Not only that, but Duesberg received a MASSIVE pummeling from the Perth Group in response to his "claim" for the award (see: http://theperthgroup.com/CONTINUUM/PapadopolousReallyAchieved1996.pdf ), and yet he STILL thought it was smart to try to make ANOTHER attempt to claim the Continuum Award! He was clearly behaving like an EGOMANIAC! As such, Duesberg should have been kicked OUT of our old "AIDS" dissident movement by the end of the 1990s at the latest, if not by the end of 1997!!

Unfortunately, Duesberg continued in the dissident movement he was largely responsible for wrecking. After a few years with no active "Rethinking AIDS" group, Duesberg and his closest cronies did even MORE damage in a round two, a "Rethinking AIDS 2.0" that started around 2005 (see: https://tig.org.za/RA.htm ). This was when some genius from Duesberg's faction decided it would be a good idea to resuscitate the already DEAD Rethinking AIDS group and make it a resolutely DUESBERG-centered CULT. This ill-advised revival coincided with the advent of a BUSINESS plan that was being implemented by Duesberg and his multimillionaire "venture capitalist" investor and his other partners who were all working towards cashing in on Duesberg's theory of cancer causation. Duesberg and his cabal needed to CONTROL the "AIDS" dissident "movement" and use it to his advantage while also ensuring that he would have NO RESISTANCE which would possibly compromise his credibility.

As such, a CLEAR PATTERN emerged of SUPPRESSION and censorship by Duesberg and his thugs against the Perth Group and the late Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos in particular. There would be NO MORE debates about the "isolation" of "HIV". Not only that, but certainly there could be NO promotion allowed for Eleni and her truly groundbreaking theory of cellular function and structure, the redox theory, since it could negate Duesberg's potential MONEY-MAKING scheme to cash in on his scientifically inferior theory on cancer.

I sent an e-mail to Jon Rappoport detailing these issues last year. He either never received my e-mail, or he has chosen to IGNORE it. Rappoport used to be someone who enjoyed exploring conspiracy theories. It's sad that Rappoport--of ALL PEOPLE-- thinks it is "unconscionable" that such a conspiracy like this one could occur in his own back yard in the "AIDS" dissident movement! Yet this is precisely what happened. Also, if our fighting against these despicable, Machiavellian people in the "Duesberg faction" got so "nasty", why didn't Rappoport step up and SAY ANYTHING back during our "civil war" of the late 2000s and early 2010s??? I guess I may have missed something, however, but I do not recall ever hearing ANY comments from Rappoport when all this was going down....??


Please let me know if you have any questions, comments or observations about this comment I've written. THANKS!

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Rod, I'm glad you're keeping the truth alive. Didn't Duesberg lose grant money for his (flimsy) stance on HIV/AIDS? Do you think he was trying to play both sides by the late 90s to get VC funding because he was already rejected from the government institutions?

Is anyone researching Eleni's redox theory nowadays?

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Hi Ricky, I just wanted to reply to you quickly, and sorry for the delay. This is an old discussion, and, as such, I'm not sure if Misha wants to revive these old discussions and let them continue on here.

In short, yes, it seems as though that Duesberg and his cronies may have had financial motives, but of course, I cannot be 100% certain of things like motives, anyway. As such, any discussion of motives usually involves a higher level of speculation. It also seems as though there may have been an "evolution" among Duesberg and his faction whereby they became more and more suppressive of the Perth Group in general and its leader Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos, in particular, and especially from circa 2005 and on. You should have another look at this link: https://tig.org.za/RA.htm BUT I realize that we did not delve too deeply into motives back then. At that time, we were too busy fighting back against the attacks!

I CAN say that I do NOT think that there was any illegal activity or criminal behavior being perpetrated by Duesberg and his cabal, nor do I think any of the Duesberg cabal were "controlled opposition". At least, I do not have any evidence of THAT. It just seemed like petty acts of a small-time "Rotary Club" type organization (the "Rethinking AIDS" group that was resuscitated around 2005) that wanted to EXCLUDE certain members (The Perth Group and us supporters) from their group and the group's events and activities....

Also, everything I am alleging DOES synchronize with the chronology of certain events such as the initiation and existence of the biotech company that Duesberg and Rasnick started circa 2003, so there IS THAT.

It's important to keep in mind that Duesberg's MAIN work was on CANCER, and both he and Rasnick were among a "class" of PROFESSIONAL researchers who needed funding in order to do their research, and certainly they needed money to start their biotech company. It also appears as though Duesberg's funding DID evolve away from government sources toward private sources (and one main source in particular, the aforementioned venture capitalist.)

On the other hand, the Perth Group and Stefan Lanka seemed to evolve into becoming researchers on a more "accidental" basis, and to the best of my knowledge neither the Perth Group nor Lanka ever had significant funding from ANY sources. It also appears to be true that the cost that the Perth Group placed on performing the necessary experiments required to prove or disprove the proper isolation of so-called "HIV" could have been covered MANY TIMES by the amount of money Duesberg received just from one source, the VC!! Alas, that VC never sent ANY money to the Perth Group or Stefan Lanka, just to Duesberg and Duesberg-aligned dissident groups.

As for whether anyone may be researching Eleni's redox theory nowadays, unfortunately I simply do not know! However, I suspect that is NOT happening, sadly, certainly not to any significant extent, at least. Make no mistake about it, there probably IS A LOT of research being done on "oxidative stress", etc. However, I suspect it may not be WELL executed, since many researchers who look into this topic fail to do the PROPER measurements that- as Eleni repeatedly stressed in her papers- need to be carried out in order to determine the most meaningful measurement of the cellular "redox state".

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Thanks for your reply. Money really does ruin so many things.

I hope someone resurrects this work. It's interesting, because one of the only things all the COVID patients have in common is oxidative stress.

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Thanks a lot, Rod, for posting it here. No, I don't feel it is inappropriate at all; I don't delete any posts from people that speak from the heart, and I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience from those years. Also, I really think that comments like yours bring some point of view that otherwise cannot be seen these days with the extensive flow of information and confusion.

I don't like Rappoport supporting RFK, but I cannot throw out all the work he did from 2020 to these days, like awaken so many that there was no SARS-CoV-2, that it was never isolated.

He also say from day 1 to every reader to be careful because they will bring a vaccine : "DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE" and "THERE IS NO VIRUS" was his message from the beginning..

He was one of the first to connect the AIDS NO VIRUS with the COVID NO VIRUS.

He admitted in many interviews that after he published his book on AIDS, he finally came to the conclusion that the Perth Group was right, that HIV does not exist, and he cites Christine Johnson as the one who woke him up on that with her interview in Continuum with Eleni.

I have been researching this fraud and many others since 2016. I´m not a 2020 no virus; maybe I am a 2018 no virus, so I really did my homework before this COVID scam, and I thank God for that because on day 1 of this scam I was able to tell my children that what they saw on TV that day was a lie. So they never fear anything; of course they suffer for the rest of the sleeping family members and their friends, but they started to join with other new friends and understood that they would have to live with friends awake, those asleep, and those in the middle...Back to your post:

My oppinion:

- Duesberg was one of the first to reveal that there was a fraud. But the orthodoxy also found him a "nice dissident" because he did not cross the most important line: There is no virus.

Why did he push for that Continuum Award? I have no clue. You make some important points in your post, and I really don't know what to say. Maybe it was a personal EGO fight with The Perth Group and Lanka. But that EGO blocked the truth and did harm.

- I don't trust RFK anymore.

- Rappoport is still a hero for me in this war against humanity.

Again, Rod, thanks for your comments and for sharing your experience from that battle; that is so important in order to understand the actual battles.

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Apr 19, 2023Liked by Misha from Gamzuletova

It's inevitable that the scam is going to fail soon.

They keep on piling on bullshit with variants and new hybrids in order to pump up fear.

This worked for a long time. It convinced people that taking shots would make them healthy.

Nowadays, people are learning that there's many other factors to sicknesses.

We had a big lesson with toxins in East Palestine.

Sooner or later, people who have actual brains will use them and notice the truth staring at them in the face. The only hurdle is social acceptance. We're getting there with conspiracies that used to be taboo being talked about, like the JFK assassination.

Once it becomes cool to ask questions and have discourse about a topic the truth will spill out.

"The evolutionary psychologist William von Hippel found that humans use large parts of thinking power to navigate social world rather than perform independent analysis and decision making. For most people it is the mechanism that, in case of doubt, will prevent one from thinking what is right if, in return, it endangers one’s social status. This phenomenon occurs more strongly the higher a person’s social status. Another factor is that the more educated and more theoretically intelligent a person is, the more their brain is adept at selling them the biggest nonsense as a reasonable idea, as long as it elevates their social status. The upper educated class tends to be more inclined than ordinary people to chase some intellectual boondoggle. "

-Sasha Latypova

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Thanks Rob for your comments !

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Apr 19, 2023Liked by Misha from Gamzuletova

Hi Misha,

With all due respect, your recollection of the history of the "AIDS" dissident movement is NOT accurate. Regardless of whatever position they are NOW advocating with respect to the "no virus" issue, the sad reality is that the people you mentioned as "presidents" of the "Rethinking AIDS" group all had problems or issues in the past with supporting the "no virus" perspective back during our dear old, NOW-DECEASED "AIDS" dissident movement! In fact, they all contributed to the DOWNFALL of our "AIDS" dissident movement, either through their lack of support for the Perth Group, or in some cases, their OVERT SUPPRESSION of the Perth Group's efforts at exposing the fraud of the missing "virus". Some of these men actually worked VERY HARD to stay AWAY FROM THE TRUTH about the missing "virus"!

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME to review all the history that has been documented by my friend Anthony Brink and myself at the following link:


When push came to shove, in other words, when it REALLY MATTERED, these people were either M.I.A. on the missing virus issue or they ACTIVELY worked to SUPPRESS IT!! Please let me know if you have any questions about this important history or if you would just like some more information or clarification. I have additional thoughts about the MOTIVES behind all of the nasty, Machiavellian behavior that occurred during our dear old "AIDS" dissident movement.

My own history and long-term involvement in our "AIDS" dissident movement is detailed at the following link:


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Thanks a lot, Rod, for your comments and links; they are very welcome. 

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Apr 20, 2023Liked by Misha from Gamzuletova

You are very welcome Misha. I know that you also have been in contact with Dr. Turner in Perth. He is retired from all of his dissident research and activism as well as RETIRED in general from his "day job" as an doctor of emergency medicine years ago. Dr. Turner has become very passive and acquiescent --even more so since Eleni's passing, quite understandably-- with respect to all of the nasty attacks that were perpetrated upon him and especially Eleni back during the "civil war" that took place in our dear old, now-deceased "AIDS" dissident movement. I, however, have not felt compelled to "soften" my views of what these despicable people did to the Perth Group and to us supporters of the Perth Group. And in my view, these people still deserve to be SHAMED, in particular for what they did to Eleni!

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Thanks Eric.

Thank you for your amazing and constant research work; you really don't stop until you find out what's really going on and what's behind the masks people have. The best for you !

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nicely said, that is true <3

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